1 00:00:11,660 --> 00:00:08,690 so I'm interested in Mars bio signatures 2 00:00:14,900 --> 00:00:11,670 and in this study i'm looking at bio 3 00:00:16,849 --> 00:00:14,910 signature preservation potential in an 4 00:00:18,460 --> 00:00:16,859 interesting field site not far from 5 00:00:20,689 --> 00:00:18,470 where i work at arizona state university 6 00:00:23,390 --> 00:00:20,699 called verde valley and so i'll try to 7 00:00:26,630 --> 00:00:23,400 put a little bit of a definition to that 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:26,640 very nebulous concept of bio signature 9 00:00:33,530 --> 00:00:31,170 preservation potential if you've looked 10 00:00:36,590 --> 00:00:33,540 at some of the nasa documents that talk 11 00:00:39,459 --> 00:00:36,600 about priorities for the next decade of 12 00:00:42,650 --> 00:00:39,469 mars science like the decade-old survey 13 00:00:45,170 --> 00:00:42,660 like the astrobiology roadmap and like 14 00:00:47,270 --> 00:00:45,180 the mars exploration group the me pag 15 00:00:49,729 --> 00:00:47,280 document you'll see that they emphasize 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:49,739 sort of the same themes you know 17 00:00:54,950 --> 00:00:52,610 characterizing aqueous environments 18 00:00:57,049 --> 00:00:54,960 understanding their habitability looking 19 00:00:58,910 --> 00:00:57,059 at bio signature preservation potential 20 00:01:03,070 --> 00:00:58,920 they don't really define it let alone 21 00:01:05,539 --> 00:01:03,080 put constraints on that concept and 22 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:05,549 using instruments that are going to be 23 00:01:10,460 --> 00:01:08,010 on you know Mars rovers doing this kind 24 00:01:13,570 --> 00:01:10,470 of science remotely and so these are the 25 00:01:16,820 --> 00:01:13,580 kind of themes that motivated this study 26 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:16,830 and if you've looked at the science the 27 00:01:20,630 --> 00:01:18,570 Mars Science program in the last decade 28 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:20,640 or so you'll see that it's been largely 29 00:01:24,530 --> 00:01:23,250 characterized by following the water so 30 00:01:28,340 --> 00:01:24,540 you know look understanding these 31 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:28,350 aqueous habitable environments and it's 32 00:01:30,950 --> 00:01:29,610 funny some of the press releases you 33 00:01:33,499 --> 00:01:30,960 know you'll see that come out of this 34 00:01:36,140 --> 00:01:33,509 topic like oh you know near neutral pH 35 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:36,150 found in Gale Crater things like that 36 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:37,890 and some of my favorite social media 37 00:01:41,690 --> 00:01:39,930 responses to these have been things like 38 00:01:44,870 --> 00:01:41,700 how many times in a week are we going to 39 00:01:46,850 --> 00:01:44,880 find water on Mars not that it's not 40 00:01:48,460 --> 00:01:46,860 very important to understand you know 41 00:01:51,380 --> 00:01:48,470 habitability in terms of aqueous 42 00:01:52,850 --> 00:01:51,390 environments because i'll talk more 43 00:01:57,260 --> 00:01:52,860 about why that's important on the next 44 00:01:59,600 --> 00:01:57,270 slide but I I think we we should be sort 45 00:02:02,600 --> 00:01:59,610 of thinking about the next phase in Mars 46 00:02:04,819 --> 00:02:02,610 a bio signature detection so I propose 47 00:02:09,020 --> 00:02:04,829 that we should be following the 48 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:09,030 preservation and the reason why I say 49 00:02:13,220 --> 00:02:10,649 that is because my favorite bio 50 00:02:13,850 --> 00:02:13,230 signature is fossil bio signature called 51 00:02:17,630 --> 00:02:13,860 carriages 52 00:02:19,490 --> 00:02:17,640 so caradin is basically what happens to 53 00:02:21,890 --> 00:02:19,500 carbon when it gets fossilized and 54 00:02:24,770 --> 00:02:21,900 preserved in sediment terrestrial 55 00:02:27,140 --> 00:02:24,780 sediment if you count the carbon atoms 56 00:02:30,410 --> 00:02:27,150 that are you know that exists in like 57 00:02:32,270 --> 00:02:30,420 living biota today versus the carbon 58 00:02:34,820 --> 00:02:32,280 atoms that are preserved in sediment 59 00:02:37,580 --> 00:02:34,830 over time you'll see that there are 60 00:02:39,920 --> 00:02:37,590 about 10,000 times more carbon atoms in 61 00:02:42,290 --> 00:02:39,930 the sediment so just statistically alone 62 00:02:45,260 --> 00:02:42,300 it's kind of one good reason why I like 63 00:02:47,890 --> 00:02:45,270 the fossil bio signatures and so this 64 00:02:51,380 --> 00:02:47,900 diagram is kind of a generalized 65 00:02:53,870 --> 00:02:51,390 schematic of how kerogen this fossil 66 00:02:56,510 --> 00:02:53,880 organics evolves over time it's not a 67 00:02:59,750 --> 00:02:56,520 very linear process but thanks to the 68 00:03:01,870 --> 00:02:59,760 petroleum industry who's motivated by 69 00:03:05,090 --> 00:03:01,880 organics and sediment for other reasons 70 00:03:07,699 --> 00:03:05,100 we understand a lot about this kind of 71 00:03:10,220 --> 00:03:07,709 fossil bio signature so basically that's 72 00:03:12,380 --> 00:03:10,230 this is why the Mars community cares 73 00:03:13,729 --> 00:03:12,390 about aqueous environments because they 74 00:03:16,430 --> 00:03:13,739 sort of you know deliver these 75 00:03:18,770 --> 00:03:16,440 microorganisms to their final resting 76 00:03:21,770 --> 00:03:18,780 spot so to say in sediment kind of 77 00:03:23,390 --> 00:03:21,780 concentrate them like in a delta sort of 78 00:03:25,340 --> 00:03:23,400 a water delta environment or something 79 00:03:26,870 --> 00:03:25,350 similar and if they're lucky enough to 80 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:26,880 be in a certain kind of environment they 81 00:03:33,110 --> 00:03:30,090 get buried and preserved and over time 82 00:03:35,630 --> 00:03:33,120 with increasing temperature depth and 83 00:03:38,590 --> 00:03:35,640 burial over geological time over 84 00:03:42,410 --> 00:03:38,600 diagenesis which is basically you know 85 00:03:44,810 --> 00:03:42,420 the evolving geological environment in a 86 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:44,820 certain area you'll get basically this 87 00:03:50,630 --> 00:03:48,810 general trend of the carbon atoms what 88 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:50,640 they want to do is form these six carbon 89 00:03:55,130 --> 00:03:52,530 rings and they want to compact and layer 90 00:03:56,390 --> 00:03:55,140 themselves like the mineral graphite and 91 00:03:58,340 --> 00:03:56,400 so that's why this process is called 92 00:04:00,380 --> 00:03:58,350 graphitization so the more mature 93 00:04:02,449 --> 00:04:00,390 carriage and we'll look we'll actually 94 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:02,459 resemble the mineral graphite whereas 95 00:04:05,870 --> 00:04:04,290 some of the younger stuff will have more 96 00:04:07,820 --> 00:04:05,880 of the different functional groups in it 97 00:04:09,500 --> 00:04:07,830 and like I said carriage is really you 98 00:04:13,009 --> 00:04:09,510 know it could be any evolution stage 99 00:04:15,620 --> 00:04:13,019 along this process that's just kind of 100 00:04:18,650 --> 00:04:15,630 an idea of what happens to the organics 101 00:04:20,509 --> 00:04:18,660 and environments like evaporating 102 00:04:22,750 --> 00:04:20,519 environments are known to have high bio 103 00:04:25,250 --> 00:04:22,760 signature preservation potential 104 00:04:27,710 --> 00:04:25,260 minerals like gypsum which is calcium 105 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:27,720 sulfate Hey light which is 106 00:04:32,300 --> 00:04:30,570 CL salt are thought to have good bio 107 00:04:34,130 --> 00:04:32,310 signature preservation potential and so 108 00:04:37,220 --> 00:04:34,140 it's not surprising that those are the 109 00:04:39,860 --> 00:04:37,230 kinds of environments that my field site 110 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:39,870 is attempting to study in my study is 111 00:04:45,500 --> 00:04:42,570 attempting to learn more about in the 112 00:04:47,330 --> 00:04:45,510 field site so we are attempting to 113 00:04:48,770 --> 00:04:47,340 address some of these ideas about 114 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:48,780 preservation potential through 115 00:04:54,020 --> 00:04:51,450 diagenesis in this field site which is 116 00:04:55,850 --> 00:04:54,030 called Verde Valley Arizona like I said 117 00:04:59,360 --> 00:04:55,860 it's a couple hours away from Arizona 118 00:05:01,370 --> 00:04:59,370 State University until a Custer an 119 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:01,380 environment which means it was once a 120 00:05:06,250 --> 00:05:03,090 standing body of water a lake 121 00:05:09,740 --> 00:05:06,260 essentially high in these evaporite 122 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:09,750 minerals and it's conveniently very 123 00:05:14,210 --> 00:05:11,730 similar to where we are right now with 124 00:05:16,340 --> 00:05:14,220 the Mars Science Laboratory on Gale 125 00:05:19,100 --> 00:05:16,350 Crater Mars and that little star there 126 00:05:20,750 --> 00:05:19,110 and the Mars community has also been 127 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:20,760 telling us for quite some time you know 128 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:23,010 they've been recommending going to these 129 00:05:28,210 --> 00:05:25,050 evaporate rich lacustrine environments 130 00:05:30,260 --> 00:05:28,220 because they they seem to be good 131 00:05:34,700 --> 00:05:30,270 environments to study for bio signature 132 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:34,710 preservation potential so what we wanted 133 00:05:41,810 --> 00:05:38,970 to do in our study is kind of define 134 00:05:43,490 --> 00:05:41,820 this long-term model of bio signature 135 00:05:46,070 --> 00:05:43,500 preservation potential and how it 136 00:05:48,380 --> 00:05:46,080 changes over time in one of these 137 00:05:51,530 --> 00:05:48,390 environments that has undergone a lot of 138 00:05:53,210 --> 00:05:51,540 die genetic alteration and see if we can 139 00:05:55,670 --> 00:05:53,220 actually you know create a model of this 140 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:55,680 system so we've been out to the field a 141 00:05:59,990 --> 00:05:57,810 couple times that's my advisor Jack 142 00:06:01,790 --> 00:06:00,000 farmer climbing up a little hill like a 143 00:06:05,810 --> 00:06:01,800 kid in a candy store looking at all the 144 00:06:07,010 --> 00:06:05,820 exciting evaporating minerals we took 145 00:06:08,860 --> 00:06:07,020 the samples back to the lab of course 146 00:06:10,850 --> 00:06:08,870 every technique that we exposed them to 147 00:06:12,830 --> 00:06:10,860 requires different sample preparation 148 00:06:15,290 --> 00:06:12,840 and unfortunately I can't get into the 149 00:06:17,210 --> 00:06:15,300 details of all of that but the point is 150 00:06:19,610 --> 00:06:17,220 we exposed it to actually five our 151 00:06:22,550 --> 00:06:19,620 samples to actually five techniques so 152 00:06:24,070 --> 00:06:22,560 petrographic microscopy is basically 153 00:06:26,060 --> 00:06:24,080 when you have a thin section of your 154 00:06:29,180 --> 00:06:26,070 sample and you look at it under a 155 00:06:31,219 --> 00:06:29,190 petrographic microscope which allows you 156 00:06:33,500 --> 00:06:31,229 to see really pretty minerals and colors 157 00:06:35,990 --> 00:06:33,510 and textures and you can use different 158 00:06:37,730 --> 00:06:36,000 filters to basically understand how the 159 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:37,740 minerals interact with each other and 160 00:06:41,450 --> 00:06:40,410 how the organics are actually preserved 161 00:06:43,490 --> 00:06:41,460 within those 162 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:43,500 and so what you know how that system 163 00:06:48,469 --> 00:06:45,930 evolves over time what came first you 164 00:06:50,629 --> 00:06:48,479 know what mineral became altered to 165 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:50,639 something else and what the organics are 166 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:53,490 in and I'll show you another example of 167 00:06:58,850 --> 00:06:55,410 that on the next slide but it's actually 168 00:07:02,540 --> 00:06:58,860 a powerful technique x-ray diffraction 169 00:07:05,779 --> 00:07:02,550 xrd is a bulk mineralogy technique which 170 00:07:07,879 --> 00:07:05,789 basically allows you to get the main 171 00:07:12,260 --> 00:07:07,889 components mineralogical components of 172 00:07:14,839 --> 00:07:12,270 your system and raman spectroscopy now 173 00:07:16,310 --> 00:07:14,849 that's an important one because we are 174 00:07:18,770 --> 00:07:16,320 actually going to be sending not one but 175 00:07:22,150 --> 00:07:18,780 two raman instruments for the first time 176 00:07:25,460 --> 00:07:22,160 to Mars and the upcoming couple years 177 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:25,470 european space agency's XO mars rover is 178 00:07:30,950 --> 00:07:28,770 going to have a raman instrument and i 179 00:07:34,610 --> 00:07:30,960 believe that's going up in 2018 and then 180 00:07:36,770 --> 00:07:34,620 the nasa 2020 Mars rover is going to 181 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:36,780 have a similar type of instrument a UV 182 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:39,810 robin going up for the first well for 183 00:07:43,700 --> 00:07:42,330 the second time to Mars so it now is a 184 00:07:46,370 --> 00:07:43,710 really good time to do these types of 185 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:46,380 analogs that he's looking at you know 186 00:07:50,420 --> 00:07:48,570 Mars analog environments and exposing 187 00:07:51,620 --> 00:07:50,430 them to Raman spectroscopy and 188 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:51,630 understanding these kinds of questions 189 00:07:57,379 --> 00:07:54,930 and if you want to look at bio signature 190 00:07:59,930 --> 00:07:57,389 preservation good general technique is 191 00:08:02,209 --> 00:07:59,940 also doing total organic carbon content 192 00:08:04,370 --> 00:08:02,219 and basically what you do is you combust 193 00:08:07,070 --> 00:08:04,380 your sample and you count the carbon 194 00:08:08,899 --> 00:08:07,080 atoms that come off and you can you know 195 00:08:11,089 --> 00:08:08,909 look at the different phases and you're 196 00:08:12,830 --> 00:08:11,099 in your system and compare like use it 197 00:08:15,499 --> 00:08:12,840 as a comparative technique to say you 198 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:15,509 know this mineral phase has higher lower 199 00:08:19,070 --> 00:08:17,490 total organic carbon to your see then 200 00:08:22,459 --> 00:08:19,080 then another one so that's a good way of 201 00:08:24,379 --> 00:08:22,469 kind of gauging relatively and with that 202 00:08:27,439 --> 00:08:24,389 picture is actually under the TOC is is 203 00:08:30,860 --> 00:08:27,449 an electro electron microprobe carbon 204 00:08:33,350 --> 00:08:30,870 map so electron microprobe allows you to 205 00:08:36,050 --> 00:08:33,360 map two-dimensional surfaces on a thin 206 00:08:37,909 --> 00:08:36,060 section and basically get elemental 207 00:08:40,370 --> 00:08:37,919 abundances so that's a carbon map so the 208 00:08:43,490 --> 00:08:40,380 red areas are lighting up and high in 209 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:43,500 carbon and so I kind of want a couple 210 00:08:46,990 --> 00:08:45,450 these techniques integrated produce 211 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:47,000 integrated data sweet looking at 212 00:08:51,079 --> 00:08:48,810 preservation potential along the 213 00:08:53,300 --> 00:08:51,089 different and member phases in my system 214 00:08:55,130 --> 00:08:53,310 and see if they compared to the TOC s 215 00:08:58,340 --> 00:08:55,140 that we're getting 216 00:09:00,770 --> 00:08:58,350 I'm still kind of working on that and so 217 00:09:02,510 --> 00:09:00,780 even though this is preliminary we're 218 00:09:05,690 --> 00:09:02,520 already seeing a very complex diagenetic 219 00:09:07,250 --> 00:09:05,700 sequence in this environment what we 220 00:09:09,770 --> 00:09:07,260 knew about it was that there was a 221 00:09:13,100 --> 00:09:09,780 volcano that damned the Verde River 222 00:09:16,490 --> 00:09:13,110 which then produced the lacustrine area 223 00:09:18,470 --> 00:09:16,500 that might that the very basin is in the 224 00:09:20,060 --> 00:09:18,480 first minerals to come out of that 225 00:09:21,890 --> 00:09:20,070 system were to precipitate were 226 00:09:23,660 --> 00:09:21,900 carbonates so when we put those 227 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:23,670 carbonates which is which are these like 228 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:26,610 darker areas when we looked at them 229 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:28,170 under the petrographic microscope we 230 00:09:34,150 --> 00:09:30,810 were seeing these regions here which are 231 00:09:36,470 --> 00:09:34,160 actually gypsum so calcium sulfate 232 00:09:37,910 --> 00:09:36,480 interacting with these veins of some 233 00:09:40,340 --> 00:09:37,920 fluid that went through the system and 234 00:09:42,260 --> 00:09:40,350 then when we looked a little closer at 235 00:09:46,070 --> 00:09:42,270 those cavities we were actually seeing 236 00:09:48,110 --> 00:09:46,080 these recrystallized smaller sulfates 237 00:09:51,350 --> 00:09:48,120 within that system so that's actually 238 00:09:54,230 --> 00:09:51,360 telling us that the gypsum that was 239 00:09:56,540 --> 00:09:54,240 primarily there was dissolved and then 240 00:09:58,960 --> 00:09:56,550 something some other sulfates 241 00:10:01,220 --> 00:09:58,970 recrystallized in the place of these 242 00:10:03,650 --> 00:10:01,230 previous gypsum areas in these cavities 243 00:10:05,780 --> 00:10:03,660 so again we're seeing alteration but 244 00:10:08,990 --> 00:10:05,790 then when we put these little areas 245 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:09,000 under the raman system we were actually 246 00:10:14,150 --> 00:10:11,850 seeing interesting excess trace elements 247 00:10:15,980 --> 00:10:14,160 specifically strontium in our system and 248 00:10:17,750 --> 00:10:15,990 we think they're forming some sort of 249 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:17,760 solid solution with some of the other 250 00:10:23,300 --> 00:10:20,850 sulfates and and and there of course 251 00:10:24,890 --> 00:10:23,310 other diagenetic pathways but the 252 00:10:27,140 --> 00:10:24,900 question is can we model you know 253 00:10:32,210 --> 00:10:27,150 carriage and preservation through these 254 00:10:33,410 --> 00:10:32,220 different types of sequences and so 255 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:33,420 another interesting thing about the 256 00:10:37,850 --> 00:10:35,970 raman analysis was that when i looked at 257 00:10:39,830 --> 00:10:37,860 that region within the cavity that i 258 00:10:41,330 --> 00:10:39,840 just showed you on the tube so when I 259 00:10:44,300 --> 00:10:41,340 looked at it under ROM and I saw 260 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:44,310 something like this the two dark spectra 261 00:10:49,310 --> 00:10:46,530 are my that same area and they're the 262 00:10:51,590 --> 00:10:49,320 same spectra I'm just sort of splitting 263 00:10:53,090 --> 00:10:51,600 up the the raman plot into two so you 264 00:10:54,770 --> 00:10:53,100 can see the different vibrational modes 265 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:54,780 raman gives you information about 266 00:10:59,000 --> 00:10:56,730 basically the components in your system 267 00:11:02,060 --> 00:10:59,010 based on their vibrational modes so i'm 268 00:11:04,460 --> 00:11:02,070 in part of the spectrum i'm seeing more 269 00:11:08,780 --> 00:11:04,470 of a sulfate i'm sorry a calcium sodium 270 00:11:10,220 --> 00:11:08,790 strontium sulfate system and the 271 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:10,230 because the green the colored ones are 272 00:11:15,620 --> 00:11:12,930 the database matches so that's matching 273 00:11:17,570 --> 00:11:15,630 closer to that whereas the same sample 274 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:17,580 and other spots of the spectrum matches 275 00:11:21,890 --> 00:11:19,890 more of sodium sulfate system which is 276 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:21,900 again saying something about the Paleo 277 00:11:26,930 --> 00:11:23,850 environment and the question is what and 278 00:11:30,470 --> 00:11:26,940 can rum and be used as a proxy for paleo 279 00:11:33,020 --> 00:11:30,480 environments so that's sort of the next 280 00:11:35,030 --> 00:11:33,030 step of this study to investigate that a 281 00:11:36,860 --> 00:11:35,040 little more and to recommend to the 282 00:11:39,170 --> 00:11:36,870 community doing studies like this you 283 00:11:42,170 --> 00:11:39,180 know we should be using more non end 284 00:11:44,180 --> 00:11:42,180 member non pure pure sodium or pure 285 00:11:47,030 --> 00:11:44,190 strontium sulfate systems but you know 286 00:11:49,670 --> 00:11:47,040 solid solution system something more in 287 00:11:52,430 --> 00:11:49,680 between to look at realistic data sets 288 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:52,440 in preparation for ramen studies on Mars 289 00:11:59,840 --> 00:11:57,810 and I'm going to leave my summary 290 00:12:23,100 --> 00:11:59,850 conclusions up while I take questions 291 00:12:30,550 --> 00:12:26,830 really no one so this is really 292 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:30,560 interesting and I'm curious so you're 293 00:12:35,680 --> 00:12:32,210 talking about the the preservation of 294 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:35,690 these sort of diagenetic well through 295 00:12:40,540 --> 00:12:38,810 die genesis these signatures do you have 296 00:12:43,810 --> 00:12:40,550 so you showed some of the preliminary 297 00:12:45,310 --> 00:12:43,820 sort of steps as what this sample goes 298 00:12:48,430 --> 00:12:45,320 through do you have some preliminary 299 00:12:50,260 --> 00:12:48,440 results but like I guess you do see 300 00:12:54,670 --> 00:12:50,270 kerogen in these samples and you do have 301 00:12:57,210 --> 00:12:54,680 preservation so we actually did the TOC 302 00:13:00,250 --> 00:12:57,220 through the combustion technique and 303 00:13:02,020 --> 00:13:00,260 along this whole system of samples that 304 00:13:04,870 --> 00:13:02,030 we've collected we're actually seeing 305 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:04,880 the most preservation the highest TOC in 306 00:13:10,020 --> 00:13:07,210 the carbonates so in the surrounding 307 00:13:12,220 --> 00:13:10,030 matrix where all of these different 308 00:13:14,710 --> 00:13:12,230 sulfates and other evaporates are 309 00:13:16,780 --> 00:13:14,720 crystallizing with it which isn't really 310 00:13:20,830 --> 00:13:16,790 surprising I guess the hypothesis there 311 00:13:22,390 --> 00:13:20,840 would be as these these other evaporated 312 00:13:24,100 --> 00:13:22,400 phases are crystallizing and 313 00:13:27,660 --> 00:13:24,110 recrystallizing within the carbonates 314 00:13:29,980 --> 00:13:27,670 they're actually encapsulating less 315 00:13:32,380 --> 00:13:29,990 organics and so the organics are 316 00:13:35,740 --> 00:13:32,390 actually you know staying remained in 317 00:13:38,500 --> 00:13:35,750 the in the carbonates so that's the 318 00:13:39,730 --> 00:13:38,510 place to look for the bio signatures so 319 00:13:44,470 --> 00:13:39,740 where would be fun where would we find 320 00:13:47,860 --> 00:13:44,480 the carbonates on Mars yeah that's kind 321 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:47,870 of a trick question um that's still 322 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:49,690 under sorry 23 under the bus on that one 323 00:13:56,740 --> 00:13:53,810 hahaha to find a carbonates on bars any